. Leave it in the sun all day, sometimes 2. “Replacing an old cast iron stack is important to avoid future leaks, backups and clogs from old worn down existing plumbing.”  Ken explains. A couple of feet above it ties into the vent and right below it connects into a hub, part of a ginormous cast iron fitting that has the 4" stack, the outlet to the WC, a, vent for the WC, a … Snaking a clog in a drain line isn’t exactly neurosurgery. from beginning to end. What is your existing (hopefully external) soil stack made of? Re-season it. Cast iron was a popular choice for water and sewage pipes in the 20th century for a number of reasons: Plastic piping hadn’t been invented yet; Cast iron pipes have a long life and were built to last for anywhere between 80-100 years; Cast iron plumbing is durable and can withstand heavy loads/high-pressure You will know the scope of work and price before the first hammer swings. 1. It is not that expensive to replace now but I can't afford to replace the horizontal runs and its not leaking, and I'd rather not have a noise problem. All times are GMT-5. That will leave you with the grey/silver cast iron like when you get it new. Just remove the cleanout plug and ram the snake down the line. Overview: Remove a stuck cleanout plug. According to realestate.com, a project like updating an indoor system, such as plumbing, is a top home improvement project you can do to increase your property value. I have cast iron from mid 1960's. Mosby’s certified designers and architects. In my case, cutting out (and replacing) the old clean-out was the only option. Once the cast iron pipe fittings have been removed, you can now take it to your local hardware store as … If you ruined your seasoning somehow, it can usually just be fixed by scrubbing and baking on a fresh layer of oil or two. then add boss for cast iron. The cast iron looks to be in good shape. But what if you can’t remove the plug? Discussion in 'Plumbing and Central Heating' started by harris48, 25 Jul 2005. harris48. The longer cast iron plumbing pipes sit in the ground, basement or crawl space without being disturbed, the more corroded and stuck their joints become. This is a common question. It is possible to remove the lead and oakum. The house has an internal cast iron stack! This page was generated at 07:08 AM. "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı", Middle of nowhere, some where in Colorado, https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1p...qcZKHyrqKhikFA, If this is your first visit, be sure to Our Right Bath Division Manager gives some insights on when an old cast iron stack should be replaced and why. Start your bathroom remodeling project with Mosby’s certified designers and architects. To strip seasoning just heat it up real hot, or throw it in the fire for a couple of hours. If you intend to stay don't mess around replace the lot with PVC as it will get worse, patching cast iron is never a good idea, it would be better to do it now when it is all accessible, as later on will cost a fortune. A stack that has a joint that is leaking will certainly need to be replaced, this leaking could lead to bacteria and potentially unhealthy and harmful waste seeping out. (Have you ever tried using an angle grinder 8 foot up a ladder)? If this is the case, the stack would need to be replaced. In the finished bathroom, everything will be walled in.Everything that is open in the floor will be replaced with PVC. The cast iron looks to be in good shape. I guess IMO if you start to wiggle it and move it and you have a lot of cast iron above it or coming to it. Right Bath is a one-week bathroom remodel that will solve your bathroom and plumbing needs. or change a section of the cast stack to plastic. If the stack pipe near the sink ... and stack pipe above the sink is lead or cast iron ... ferrell that is caulked into the case iron. Newer cast iron pipe is made so the wall thickness is uniform. 109a - To replace soil stack with 2 toilets. I could break it apart with a hammer but I don't want any chunks to fall into the drain. Very often the only way to remove an old pipe is by brute force and hitting the cast iron with a lump hammer will shatter it relatively easily but will create dangerous shards of iron. Re: Removing lead-caulked joints; Author: tom.m (NY) I had a lead drain pipe leaded into a brass ferrule which was leaded into a hubless nipple on the cast iron stack. Mix equal parts white vinegar and water. Newer cast iron pipe is made so the wall thickness is uniform. easy job. Re: Removing old cast iron plumbing drain stack -- ideas? It has already got a large crack/smile in it. Get whichever of the 2 Ferncos I mentioned BEFORE you take the joint apart. I'm finishing a basement bathroom. Once you are able to loosen the fittings from the pipes, carefully turn them counter-clockwise using your hand and remove them from the system. For the hose model, you can remove the hose from the clamp and pull it out to where it is easier to work on. Once you are able to loosen the fittings from the pipes, carefully turn them counter-clockwise using your hand and remove them from the system. I've read through a few threads on here and I intend replacing the soil stack with black plastic or imitation cast iron. You will know the scope of work and price before the first hammer swings. Removing a Stuck Sewer Cleanout Cap. Rinse the skillet with water and then scour it with a small amount of dish soap and fine steel wool. It's also easy to work with if you're creating a new branch line. No need to remove the lead joint if … It can be cut with angle grinder with metal blade (that method will require dust mask. Before cutting out a section of pipe, secure the plumbing stack or run in place. I have cast iron from mid 1960's. Very few cases actually require a full stripping of cast iron and restarting your seasoning from scratch. Lay a bead of silicon caulk around the donut (it will spread out and need to be cleaned up around the outside once you are done hammering the donut in.) Cast Out The Cast Iron: Converting Old Plumbing Stacks to PVC, If efficiency, knowledge and quality craftsmanship are of the utmost importance, then Mosby is the partner for you. Right Bath will get you the look you desire with quality products from Kohler, Onyx Collection, Wellborn Cabinet and more. Work up a sudsy scrub and keep at it until you’re down to raw cast iron. Cast Iron Plumbing Stack - Quiet and Strong. (this would add an extra our for the 2 person at the cost of £60 = £420 The cost for the above are as long as there are no complication such as the soil pipe going through a hole of the roof and there is only a ground floor and a first floor keeping in mind that the toilets do not need requiring moving to connect the soil stack. from Mosby is ideal for those with a standard sized bathroom that needs remodeling but does not require extensive changes to the footprint of the space. Clean away any cobwebs, and shield surrounding wood with a metal baking pan. How to remove old seasoning and start over from scratch? PVC is a flexible, rust resistant and durable alternative, so converting to PVC really modernizes the plumbing system within the home, making it a solid, more reliable choice. If you need soap, use just a little mild dish soap. Besides just replacing the stack for preventative measures there are more immediate tell-tale signs that a stack should be replaced. Not only does it ensure further peace of mind for the homeowner but it’s a great selling point for a home on the market. But, it does a single large barnacle on a section that Y's into the vertical and a few light rust spots. At Right Bath we always pull the necessary permits to protect the homeowner and to ensure the work is done up to local municipality requirements. It is well jointed by the looks of it & needs taken out of the clay sewer bend without damaging that also. I've had different professional opinions and some think its okay to leave it while others would replace it. But the outside couple, with the 2 stainless steel band on it, would require that you cut the hub off of the cast iron. Plumbers install sewer cleanout fittings so you can get inside sewer pipes and remove blockages. It has already got a large crack/smile in it. "A cast iron plumbing stack is a thing of beauty, especially if it's the sleek newer no-hub cast iron." The stuff is VERY heavy, and the last thing you want to do is remove a section at the bottom and have hundreds of pounds of iron crash down on you. Cast iron has a tendency to rust, so drainpipe plugs that have not been removed in some time may seem molded to the pipe by rust. Put in bag. And the work will be done with a commitment to excellence and your happiness. Here’s our full guide to removing rust from cast iron. I could break it apart with a hammer but I don't want any chunks to fall into the drain. Cast iron is extremely heavy and is assembled from the bottom up so the weight is supported by the lower portion. Mosby is open and ready to help! I agree with AFM, as a minimum replace now what will not be accessible for repair or to monitor its condition in the future. (Have you ever tried using an angle grinder 8 foot up a ladder)? Cast-iron pipe is extremely heavy, and it's prone to rusting through (after all, it's just iron), especially on horizontal drains that may hold standing water. In this picture the cast iron pipe hub is on the left. But, it does a single large barnacle on a section that Y's into the vertical and a few light rust spots. There are now 2 connection points on the stack (used to be 3, but one is no longer accessible due to new location of the sink) - T's in the 4" cast iron with what looks like a 3" or 2-1/2" fitting, into which is cast iron reducer and then threaded in the 1-1/2 copper. You could also take your pan into a sandblasting company and get it sandblasted. Then use some cooking oil spray inside the cast iron pipe hub to make it easier to hammer the donut in. What is your existing (hopefully external) soil stack made of? Mosby takes the guesswork out of home remodeling by planning the work and working the plan. This is something a homeowner should take care of right away. I have put a pan in the bag this way and left it in the back of my truck. If it’s cast iron, bits can be cut out and plastic sections fitted but that’s not a job for the faint-hearted. Banding is a temporary patch solution, and it should be addressed sooner than later. Many older homes still have old cast iron drain and sewer pipes rather than the PVC plastic pipes used in modern home construction. The good news is that once you cut out a section of cast-iron pipe and lug it out of the house, you can easily splice in a matching section of lightweight, very low-cost ABS or PVC plastic pipe and leave the rest of the cast iron in place. I have to remove & replace a complete cast iron soil pipe from the rear of a house - in a small back yard. For more information on that, you can visit here. You do not want steam or water to accidentally get cast iron cookware wet. This means from the bottom it will be PVC. Chimney and Fireplace Removal Costs. If it’s cast iron, bits can be cut out and plastic sections fitted but that’s not a job for the faint-hearted. A cast iron soil and vent pipe is a very heavy thing! What is a plumbing stack? Make enough to fully submerge your pot and pan. “Replacing an old cast iron stack is important to avoid future leaks, backups and clogs from old worn down existing plumbing.” Ken explains. Older homes typically have cast iron or galvanized steel stacks, which tend to rust and corrode over time. Learn more about semi-custom bathroom remodeling here. I'm finishing a basement bathroom. Re: Help removing cast iron clean-out plug; Author: mjb1962853 (NY) I just had to repair a leaking 4" clean-out in a 100 year old cast iron stack. Tim Carter - Founder, AsktheBuilder.com. Don’t get it cherry red. check out the. Bob D. 2006. Both tools will cut cast iron with relative ease, if not as quickly as a snap cutter, and they work in tight spaces. process is streamlined for maximum efficiency, There’s no need to deal with multiple companies, or the frustration of the left hand unaware of what the right hand is doing. Cast iron cookware is made to last, so rust can usually be successfully removed. You can use stainless-steel no-hub clamps to make leak-proof connections in case you want to run PVC into the cast iron. It's also easy to work with if you're creating a new branch line. The only cast iron that remains is in the stack going through the roof - it only carries smell and gas, so it was in fine shape, and we saw no need to disturb the roof. Learn more about custom bathroom remodeling here. All of Mosby’s remodeling work is backed by our 10-year workmanship warranty. « Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 05:46:22 PM » The drain/stack needs to be replaced; there are multiple leaking joints under the house, and inside there were rubber couplings on the sink and tub overflow drains, along with a patchwork of PVC and original galvanized supply line. Towel dry it, and follow Steps 1 and 3-5 above. Old true cast iron pipe could suffer from thin-wall syndrome, but that's no longer an issue. Tim Carter - Founder, AsktheBuilder.com. (Note that donuts are only usable on non-pressurized pipes, such as waste/drain lines.) It was surrounded by very old, very dry wood, so melting the lead with a torch did not seem like a good idea for me. Cast iron is tough as nails, you can always rescue it so long as you don't drop it and crack the pan, and it's easy to care for and maintain. Drench the Cast Iron in oven cleaner. Here is a photo showing the middle section and where the leak is I'm finishing a basement bathroom. This plug allows access to the drain pipe for removing clogs and other obstructions. 2 days later it came out of the bag looking like it was just cast. The stack just disappers into the ground (it doesn't go into any visible collar above ground). However, remove cast iron cookware when using the stove. This article was featured as "The Week Of Cast Iron" in Tim's March 10, 2019 AsktheBuilder Newsletter. Grab a soldering torch and apply just enough heat to warm the cleanout plug and fitting. The end of the drain pipe has a removable cap plug. Replacing a section of cast iron pipe is easier than you think.Step 1: Cast-iron pipe is very heavy. Some remodel and retrofit projects include replacing older cast-iron drains and vent risers with ABS plastic pipes. For one if the stack has barnacles, in other terms, scab like rust spots, it could be a sign that the stack is starting to rot from the inside out and become brittle. Switching to PVC allows for easier changes in the future as it works with new plumbing fixtures more cohesively. as cast iron is a pain to work with and can easerly go wrong and crack. Loosening a cast iron clean-out plug from a … If efficiency, knowledge and quality craftsmanship are of the utmost importance, then Mosby is the partner for you. Hammer the donut in using a large hammer (or side of a small hammer if in an enclosed space between studs.) I'm open to suggestions on the best way to remove it. Re: Removing old cast iron plumbing drain stack -- ideas? Once the cast iron pipe fittings have been removed, you can now take it to your local hardware store as … They begin the design process by learning about your exact needs and desires. The only cast iron that remains is in the stack going through the roof - it only carries smell and gas, so it was in fine shape, and we saw no need to disturb the roof. « Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 05:46:22 PM » The drain/stack needs to be replaced; there are multiple leaking joints under the house, and inside there were rubber couplings on the sink and tub overflow drains, along with a patchwork of PVC and original galvanized supply line. The only really safe way to remove an aging cast iron stack is from the top. Take great care when removing the old one and always wear safety gloves and goggles. In this case you can just clean them well and put down another layer of oil. Any stack that has been banded is a sign that there was an issue at one point. This plug allows access to the drain pipe for removing clogs and other obstructions. Our process is streamlined for maximum efficiency, which means a beautiful new bathroom could be yours in just 1-2 weeks. Just below the connection the section of vertical cast iron pipe is rotten and leaking. Clean it very well. Stack replacements can be done on homes that are one or two stories and most of the time the stack will be replaced from the basement floor up through the roof. Under the sink, for example, may be a bad idea. "A cast iron plumbing stack is a thing of beauty, especially if it's the sleek newer no-hub cast iron." After you have gotten all the lead out and cleaned up the hub, you can place a donut (also known as a compression joint seal) in the hub of the cast iron pipe to adapt it to PVC. Step 5: Removing the Fittings. We had to use Plumber’s Strap to support the remaining cast iron, and started cutting from the top down. Specifically, I had to remove a hub from a street wye. I need to replace this cast iron vent stack in the attic of a bungalow. The kitchen/bath, and washing machine drain have gone 15 years thusfar with not so much as a slow drain. Cast iron frying pans are the only kind I own, and based on your photos I don't think you need to start over with the seasoning. The cast iron looks to be in good shape. The plumbing throughout a home is connected to a main plumbing stack that runs from the lowest level of the home and often times vents through the roof. We are a design build firm that handles every aspect of your remodeling project from beginning to end. or change the complete stack. Re: Replacing cast iron stack (pic heavy) Thank you for the honest reply, Ben.. As I said, I've done my own work before. BLOG   | Right Bath by Mosby | Cast Out The Cast Iron: Converting Old Plumbing Stacks to PVC. A semi-custom bathroom remodel from Mosby is ideal for those with a standard sized bathroom that needs remodeling but does not require extensive changes to the footprint of the space. If you cut the tub in half, just leave the overflow attached. The cost to remove a fireplace and chimney is $3,000 to $6,000, which includes demolishing the stack and breast, installing structural support, and repairing the walls, floor, and roof.A partial fireplace or chimney demolition costs $500 to $2,500 to remove everything below or above the roof-line. Start cleanout plug removal by applying gentle heat to the cleanout plug … When the … If two bathrooms are connected to the stack it is better for both sinks and toilets to be connected to the new stack, and if a bath tub is to be converted to a shower, the drain size needs to be increased from 1 1/2 ‘’ to 2’’ pipe. I have to remove & replace a complete cast iron soil pipe from the rear of a house - in a small back yard. The plumbing throughout a home is connected to a main plumbing stack that runs from the lowest level of the home and often times vents through the roof. How to Take Apart Cast-Iron Plumbing. The purpose of the stack is to remove sewage and to prevent sewage gases from seeping back into the home; this is stopped by traps, or curved sections of pipe that seal off the gases. All team members needed to complete your project (designers, architects and production crews) are under one roof to provide time and monetary efficiencies, quality control, and seamless communication throughout. Otherwise, if your Dutch oven just needs a refresh, ensure it’s free of any baked-on food by thoroughly scrubbing it with hot water. Removing Rust from Cast Iron Cookware If your skillet is even a little rusty, quit cooking in it ASAP. I would love to combine two of the best things in cooking, deglazing with a fonds or wine and my cast iron skillet, which I have been seasoning for a couple of months now. "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" Removing an old cast iron soil stack. For this type of work a plumbing permit is needed to ensure the job is being done correctly and up to code. To schedule an appointment for a free consultation, you can give us a call at 314-909-1820 or go torightbath.com/contact. Once you get it back in shape, you’ll season it anew and be good to go. For DIYers who need to make just a couple of cuts for a splice, a reciprocating saw or a grinder is a better option than a snap cutter. All team members needed to complete your project (designers, architects and production crews) are under one roof to provide time and monetary efficiencies, quality control, and seamless communication throughout. It is well jointed by the looks of it & needs taken out of the clay sewer bend without damaging that also. Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Messages: 35 Thanks Received: 0 Country: Could anyone give me some advice on the best way to remove an old cats iron pipe on a house. drill the cast stack with a bi-metal hole cutter. How should I remove the lower portion- dig down and locate a underground joint, or just cut it away about a foot above ground and attach plastic using some form of collar? The "donut" would require that you take the joint apart as John mentioned. Advice welcome Replacing a section of cast iron pipe is easier than you think.Step 1: Cast-iron pipe is very heavy. All of Mosby’s remodeling work is backed by our, Right Bath is a one-week bathroom remodel, Designer Talk: How to Have the Look of a Wood Floor in Wet Spaces, Meet the Team: Client Experience Coordinator, Sherwin Williams Color of the Year: Urbane Bronze, Finish Or Remodel Your Basement To Create More Usable Living Space, Click here to learn more about our Financing. These are common changes during bathroom remodels and something we take care of all the time for clients. “I see rusted-in cleanout plugs a lot in older homes with galvanized pipe,” says master plumber Les Zell. I have the option to replace the vertical cast iron with PVC but I don't have the money to replace the horizontal runs too. They begin the design process by learning about your exact needs and desires. All work is code compliant, down to the studs and will not cover up any existing issues. Small pinholes in the stack can eventually lead to larger pinholes and possible leaks. We are a design build firm that handles. If your cookware is very rusted, doing a vinegar soak can help remove rust and restore the pan. So, first I tried digging out the lead with a screw driver. A cast iron soil and vent pipe is a very heavy thing! I have the option to replace the vertical cast iron with PVC but I don't have the money to replace the horizontal runs too. Mosby takes the guesswork out of home remodeling by planning the work and working the plan. The key to … You can use stainless-steel no-hub clamps to make leak-proof connections in case you want to run PVC into the cast iron. Old true cast iron pipe could suffer from thin-wall syndrome, but that's no longer an issue. Step 5: Removing the Fittings. Stack Exchange network consists of 176 Q&A communities including Stack Overflow, ... Can deglazing a cast iron skillet remove the seasoning? There’s no need to deal with multiple companies, or the frustration of the left hand unaware of what the right hand is doing. I need to change the old external cast iron soil stack for plastic. the current waste connections to the stack will mean its impossible to connect in the new positions. If it’s plastic it can be adapted but that’s not always easy by any means. pain in the a**e. not a job i like alls way try to avoid. It’s important to choose a licensed and insured contractor when doing your bathroom remodel or plumbing work to make sure their work is up to industry standards and code requirements. This article was featured as "The Week Of Cast Iron" in Tim's March 10, 2019 AsktheBuilder Newsletter. Our. Penetrating lube, breaker bar, and a … I have cast iron from mid 1960's. As a rule of thumb I estimate $2,000.00 for a stack move - more if its cast iron, and more again if it needs to be built in cast iron. We had to use Plumber’s Strap to support the remaining cast iron, and started cutting from the top down. But, it does a single large barnacle on a section that Y's into the vertical and a few light rust spots. I have the option to replace the vertical cast iron with PVC but I don't have the money to replace the horizontal runs too. Since the 1970s, stacks have been constructed from more durable PVC pipe, but they can still develop problems such as clogging. Remove the plug by turning it counterclockwise with the wrench. As evidenced by your lack of knowledge about PVC/ABS drain pipes, I think you may be starting a trip you don't want to go on. Ask Question ... 6. Cast Iron Plumbing Stack - Quiet and Strong. Many of our customers want to replace their old Cast Iron Soil Pipe with a new PVC system, but without the hassle of digging up the concrete to replace the drain connection. How to Loosen a Cast Iron Clean Out Plug. Remove that support and above can and will come crashing down. I am trying to remove an old plug (seems to be 3.25", not 3" or 4" like the standard ones) on a cast iron drain system. Before cutting out a section of pipe, secure the plumbing stack or run in place. Unhooking the drain is similar to a sink drain: remove the trap. I'm open to suggestions on the best way to remove it. Very often the only way to remove an old pipe is by brute force and hitting the cast iron with a lump hammer will shatter it relatively easily but will create dangerous shards of iron. The answer is to cut off the cast iron at ground level, and make the connection with the specially designed SP140 connector. I'm in the process of fitting a new bathroom suite and I’ve discovered that our cast iron soil pipe is corroded and leaking so needs replacing. If it’s plastic it can be adapted but that’s not always easy by any means. Be it a hall bathroom, a master bathroom or an accessible bathroom, our designers will make sure it looks the way you desire and performs above and beyond your expectations. Be it a hall bathroom, a master bathroom or an accessible bathroom, our designers will make sure it looks the way you desire and performs above and beyond your expectations.

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